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Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.16 06:16:00 - [1] At least on the Minmatar side i find the only thing that encourages blobs is the lack of FCs. So once someone steps up to do it, a crapload of bored people x up so the resulting fleet grows big fast. Also, the amarr have kind of dropped their balls somewhere on the way. They always gather in highsec and keep fielding heavy fleets with logistic support. Even if it's just a frig swarm roaming. But looking at the killboards, a huge number of kills still are solo or small gang kills. While you will get blobbed often there still is a good chance to find those small engagements. People just need to start more small gangs. Or - shock horror - just go out alone once in a while. It's not that a cruiser or even a BC costs a hell of a lot money these days. I've started going solo in cruisers recently and while it can be frustrating to find something you can engage i haven't lost a ship to a blob so far. And i'm not using a scout alt. Common sense mostly is enough to keep you alive. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.16 11:56:00 - [2] Originally by: Gunner Dark 20 people is not a blob , if the Matari can't form a gang of 20 in reply (out of over 200+ most evenings) then they deserve to lose anyway . We can easily get that many people together most of the time. If not, it's due to the already mentioned lack of FCs. Quote: The Matari militia is a joke, people in militia ask for random X's in militia for gangs that no one know what they are for , nor do they have any real purpose . No one is going to throw an X in militia in the hope some random gang gives them an invite, add in on top their top corps wont play with the militia ( IFW )or are simply not that active (TC) then the Matari FW is full of fail. Wait, what? I don't get what you're on about here. People x'ing up or people not x'ing up? How does a gang not have a purpose? I'm confused. Quote: Imho the Amarr are simply far more organised than the Matari , they have organised corps and the ability to put together coherent gangs for the above mentioned bait traps or small 20 man roaming gangs (blob my arse) They're only far more organized as in "Either we get a BS heavy fleet with proper logistics support going that is a lot bigger than the Minmatar blob or we're not leaving our highsec home. EVER!" Because that's what they usually do. It's gotten extremely boring. Originally by: Hirana Yoshida A vast majority of kills are still small gang/solo stuff. Blobs are increasing in frequency and fleet shipsizes are going up on both sides. For Amarr it is partially due to the horde of neutral Matari tag-alongs that find it worthwhile/funny to wardec half of Amarr militia and using pirate gank tactics against everyone else .. like a bad rash that refuses to go away. For Minmatar I think they are battling their own demons in Amamake, but I really have no idea nor interest in what goes on as long wrecks keep piling up. The more time passes the poorer CCPs decision to allow player militia corps to be wardecced looks. Having neutrals able to cherry-pick targets from a combined fleet ruins the experience (supposedly fun perpetual small scale pvp) for everyone. Bring back the pewpew goodness of the small stuff (cruiser 'n' down)!!! For the Amarr it's Star Fraction being a major pain in the ass, for Minmatar it's the Heretic Nation. I find the situation is quite similar these days. It sucks having those corps inbetween, picking their targets at will with not much one can do about it. The FW system there still is pretty sucky. About other neutral tag-alongs, Amarr better shut the hell up about that. They are masters of neutral logistic support. I rarely ever see neutrals tag along with the Minmatar fleets on the other hand. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.16 13:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Nur AlHuda We are speaking about one neutral logistic pilot all the time. And for one year minmatars use the same excuse for all over the year. Its quite funny how one person that gets flashy can create problem for whole minmatar fleet. I think targeting and killing flashies dont requires some special skill but obviously it does for minmatars. And the best on it is the part most minmatars dont want to bring their logistic out couse they dont trust even they own corp members and they blame us. To see a minmatar logistic ship is very rare sight. Personaly so far i saw only 2-3 people using logistics in minmatar miltia. It's not about that one neutral guardian. He's never the only one anyway. And it's not about trust, it's the general attitude that differs. We just don't enjoy huge BS blobs. It's boring. But it's all the Amarr ever field. "Look, there's a fleet of 30 frigs and one cruiser roaming! GET TO THE BATTLESHIPS!" That's the Amarr spirit. And that **es me off. Originally by:** Hirana Yoshida I deliberately didn't mention any names since the neutral tag-alongs tend to make every thread in which they are mentioned into a chest-thumping exercise. I was referring not to the single neutrals that are present on all sides, but the whole alliances and corps supporting the Matari actively through wardecs, monetary compensation, RR support and piracy against Amarr pilots. Force people/entities to either pirate like Goddess intended or join the Militias proper if they want to influence things in FW. Would level the playing field tremendously for all involved. I agree completely about neutral corps and FW mechanics. I just can't see all those neutral alliances and whatnot supporting us. Apart from the one mentioned but there i think we're both screwed equally. I know of one guy in the militia who gives out free T1 rifters. I don't know ANY neutral logistic pilots on our side. And i don't know any neutral corps helping us out apart from pirate corps that are after both the amarr and the minmatar FW people. But hey, whatever. I'm an FW newbie and i don't care about all this. I pew pew and that's it. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.16 15:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Nur AlHuda Well i would like to know when those battleships blobs are happening so i can join them :( Im sure not in EU zone. And if maybe once a week couse then our killboards would be green permanently :P You have to understand that when the Mini dudes say blob, they mean anything above 10 . The FW definition of blob seems to differ from what anyone else in EVE would consider a blob You're bitter. And funny. More bitter than funny tho. Keep it comming. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.17 15:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Zen Guerrilla Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Nur AlHuda Well i would like to know when those battleships blobs are happening so i can join them :( Im sure not in EU zone. And if maybe once a week couse then our killboards would be green permanently :P You have to understand that when the Mini dudes say blob, they mean anything above 10 . The FW definition of blob seems to differ from what anyone else in EVE would consider a blob You're bitter. And funny. More bitter than funny tho. Keep it coming. No where near as funny as someone like you telling others how fine FW is, you are never out your rifter or thrasher , you are the embodiment of everything that's ** in our faction. We have dozens of pilots like you flying around in your t1 frigs while PIE, DIA, 1PG, A-BC, and ARETR are cruising around in organised groups flying well setup non crap ships. The Matari need to stop acting all but-hurt because the Amarrians are willing to bring it while our noobs sit and hope to * mails in bloody t1 frigs and crap fit cruisers. Edit I should note that our Anzan/US pilots are really pretty good , they are more than capable and willing to mix it up with the Amarrians, its simply the Euronubs that are terribad Euronub. I like that. ALL THOSE GODDAMN EURONUBS! FLYING THEIR CHEAP ASS ** SHIPS AND HAVING FUN IN FW, HOW DARE THEY!!! INTERNET SPACESHIPS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS! RAAAAGE! Heh, and props for being able to read a killboard. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.22 22:52:00 - [6] I predict that after tonight the Amarr will not find anything to fight for quite some time. At least those in the EU timezone. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.23 13:26:00 - [7] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 23/09/2009 11:05:47 Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 23/09/2009 11:05:33 The fight last night was an absolute sluaghter. Fair play to the minmitar fc who decided to stay and fight but seriousley you need to train your scouts or get new ones. When your fleet was spotted 3 different fleets converged on your position. The first was the R.S.M hac fleet who gave the intel to me, i then formed an ab-c batleship fleet. Initial plan was to come and screw you over by ourselves but we realsied the militia had a fleet and we all worked together. In the end we all jumped into you guys from kourm knowing the Auga gate was HUGE and that all the rr would be like 50km away from each other. You put up a valient effort and i salute you for that, and warping in the battleships late in the fight would of helped if it were sooner. All in all a good fight :) The next thing i would like to poing out is that you primaried a damnation ???? why would you do that.....? The worlds best primary calling wouldn't have saved us there. :) Awesome fight tho and no lag at all on my side. But please, "all the RR"? We barely had 10 BS'es. When you went on the way, we had NONE. The whole fleet was BC and down and we only just shipped up right before the engagement. Once again you brought an absolute overkill fleet. That really is the only thing that ****es me off. In the end this will stop the Minnie side from forming proper fleets at all. And then there's nothing left to do but plex. :( And i still don't know how we didn't see the rest of your guys coming. Our scouts really sucked there. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.25 16:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Jade Constantine There is an extreme conservative sentiment in some FW participants that is a holdover from a particularly grim RP dispute from years ago that I term the sandboxista tendency - in essence this is people getting upset that other people are interacting with them in a multiplayer game. But anyone claiming FW is only for novices while running their own battleships and out of militia logistics alts is quite frankly taking the mickey. FW belongs to nobody (and everybody). While i believe in that whole "sandbox" approach, the way corporations and/or alliances can interfere with FC corps is just plain broken. It's not exactly fun to watch a neutral corp pick off random players from your fleet while you can't do squat about it. I only got to understand how annoying it can be when the Heretics decided to screw with our Militia like you do with the Amarr. It's ****ty game mechanics. You shouldn't be able to pick your WTs from Militia as you wish, it should be all or none. Like it is for those who join FW. While it might be somewhat entertaining from your point of view, it's just an annoyance from the other side of the fence. :( ----------------------------- Pew pew!
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.28 16:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Baruc LESS QQ MOAR PEW PEW I second that. Let's all just cut the crap here and let the guns do the talking. ----------------------------- Pew pew!

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